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	<title>Comments on: Unified Sportsmen Of Pennsylvania Suing PGC Again</title>
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		<title>By: GO usp go!</title>
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		<dc:creator>GO usp go!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope those idiots at the game commission lose and have their fraud a$$es embarrassed and humiliated.   Would be suitable repayment for selling out the sportsmen of this state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope those idiots at the game commission lose and have their fraud a$$es embarrassed and humiliated.   Would be suitable repayment for selling out the sportsmen of this state.</p>
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		<title>By: Lampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in NJ and own a hunting camp in North Central Pa. i have had this camp for 20 plus years and hunted for 5 more years in Pa prior to purchasing a camp. I am an avid bow hunter and gun hunter and have hunted in tough conditions in both states and am willing to go as deep into the forest as it takes to be succesful. The fact is the forested areas have little or no deer in them. There are still some deer to be had on active farms if you can get permission but even those deer numbers are sparse. 
I usually use turkey season as a post season scouting excursion and cover great expanses of territory searching for turkeys and deer sign. 
i spent the last four days in the woods and walked countless miles and did not come accross a deer or any concentrated deer sign. 
 i hunted deer six straight days of the first week of buck season last year and was in  the woods each day from 6 am until dark at 5 pm. I was hunting the most concentrated deer sign in the area and had four deer sightings in all that time. only one was an adult doe.
There is something wrong with that picture.

the wost part of this situation is that the hunters are still shooting Does and sometimes Multiple Does.
i hope the USP is successful in there attempts at an injuction. 
i do not have a problem with harvesting Does for management purposes, but you need something to manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in NJ and own a hunting camp in North Central Pa. i have had this camp for 20 plus years and hunted for 5 more years in Pa prior to purchasing a camp. I am an avid bow hunter and gun hunter and have hunted in tough conditions in both states and am willing to go as deep into the forest as it takes to be succesful. The fact is the forested areas have little or no deer in them. There are still some deer to be had on active farms if you can get permission but even those deer numbers are sparse.<br />
I usually use turkey season as a post season scouting excursion and cover great expanses of territory searching for turkeys and deer sign.<br />
i spent the last four days in the woods and walked countless miles and did not come accross a deer or any concentrated deer sign.<br />
 i hunted deer six straight days of the first week of buck season last year and was in  the woods each day from 6 am until dark at 5 pm. I was hunting the most concentrated deer sign in the area and had four deer sightings in all that time. only one was an adult doe.<br />
There is something wrong with that picture.</p>
<p>the wost part of this situation is that the hunters are still shooting Does and sometimes Multiple Does.<br />
i hope the USP is successful in there attempts at an injuction.<br />
i do not have a problem with harvesting Does for management purposes, but you need something to manage.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to get some discussion going on this article - http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2009/03/19/pa-deer-harvest-up-4-why-open-discussion/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to get some discussion going on this article &#8211; <a href="http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2009/03/19/pa-deer-harvest-up-4-why-open-discussion/" rel="nofollow">http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2009/03/19/pa-deer-harvest-up-4-why-open-discussion/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The greed commission ruined Pa</title>
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		<dc:creator>The greed commission ruined Pa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not the 2 week season.  Its the rediculous allocations.  WAAAAY too many doe tags.  Many areas of the state have seen a continued decline in the herd despite claims of stabilization the last 4 years.  PGC uses the buck harvest trends as determining factor of herd trends.  The buck harvest in many wmus has gone straight down the crapper to all time lows.

Something needs done.  Legislators need to quit giving lip service and step into this situation and stop this rogue independent agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not the 2 week season.  Its the rediculous allocations.  WAAAAY too many doe tags.  Many areas of the state have seen a continued decline in the herd despite claims of stabilization the last 4 years.  PGC uses the buck harvest trends as determining factor of herd trends.  The buck harvest in many wmus has gone straight down the crapper to all time lows.</p>
<p>Something needs done.  Legislators need to quit giving lip service and step into this situation and stop this rogue independent agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Gum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They base their numbers on a few select areas where they can find the numbers to suit what they want to say. I&#039;ve seen a lot of deer in places real close to developments where you couldn&#039;t even archery hunt if you want, but to the PGC that’s all they need. They say there are all these deer people conflicts where? Near the cities? Of course you can&#039;t hunt and nobody does hunt there. Its amazing how people like Greg can say only a few number of hunters complain, well that’s funny because I could name off at least 50ppl that I know who don&#039;t see any deer. They base there numbers on the deer population in the entire WMU but they don&#039;t give any consideration to where the hunters can actually hunt. If there are deer they&#039;re on private or non-hunt able land and even on private land they&#039;re not that many but that reasonability lies with the land owners who hunt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They base their numbers on a few select areas where they can find the numbers to suit what they want to say. I&#8217;ve seen a lot of deer in places real close to developments where you couldn&#8217;t even archery hunt if you want, but to the PGC that’s all they need. They say there are all these deer people conflicts where? Near the cities? Of course you can&#8217;t hunt and nobody does hunt there. Its amazing how people like Greg can say only a few number of hunters complain, well that’s funny because I could name off at least 50ppl that I know who don&#8217;t see any deer. They base there numbers on the deer population in the entire WMU but they don&#8217;t give any consideration to where the hunters can actually hunt. If there are deer they&#8217;re on private or non-hunt able land and even on private land they&#8217;re not that many but that reasonability lies with the land owners who hunt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time!

Let me tell you.  I thought there was something wrong with ME.  I was not seeing the deer like I had been in years past.  I used to go spotlighting in the early evenings and see 80 to 100 deer in some of the large fields.  Those same fields, in 2006 and 2007 maybe had 4 deer in them in the evenings.

During the 2007 PA bear and deer seasons, I talked with every hunter I met in the woods and along the roads.  Every one of them said the same thing.  The PA Game Commission has mismanaged the deer herd and there the numbers are down.

I really can&#039;t understand how it is, from 1913 onward, that the season bag limit was always one deer per person - for the entire hunting season.  But, starting a few years ago, there are bonus tags AND hunters with those bonus doe permits may also shoot a doe during the buck season.

Something is wrong. 2008 will be the first time in 32 years that I will not be purchasing a Penna hunting license.  The is no sense in hunting when there is nothing to hunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time!</p>
<p>Let me tell you.  I thought there was something wrong with ME.  I was not seeing the deer like I had been in years past.  I used to go spotlighting in the early evenings and see 80 to 100 deer in some of the large fields.  Those same fields, in 2006 and 2007 maybe had 4 deer in them in the evenings.</p>
<p>During the 2007 PA bear and deer seasons, I talked with every hunter I met in the woods and along the roads.  Every one of them said the same thing.  The PA Game Commission has mismanaged the deer herd and there the numbers are down.</p>
<p>I really can&#8217;t understand how it is, from 1913 onward, that the season bag limit was always one deer per person &#8211; for the entire hunting season.  But, starting a few years ago, there are bonus tags AND hunters with those bonus doe permits may also shoot a doe during the buck season.</p>
<p>Something is wrong. 2008 will be the first time in 32 years that I will not be purchasing a Penna hunting license.  The is no sense in hunting when there is nothing to hunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMOCK - Please don&#039;t take this question wrong. I am not being a smartass! Could you explain in your opinion why having 2 weeks and at the same time as bucks is a mistake?
I hunt in Maine and both seasons have always run at the same time. Is it because of the number of hunters in the woods?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMOCK &#8211; Please don&#8217;t take this question wrong. I am not being a smartass! Could you explain in your opinion why having 2 weeks and at the same time as bucks is a mistake?<br />
I hunt in Maine and both seasons have always run at the same time. Is it because of the number of hunters in the woods?</p>
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		<title>By: GMOCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GMOCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the law suit and going to court is a little much, but I also think It was a bad move to have the regular antlerless season two weeks long.And at the same time as buck season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the law suit and going to court is a little much, but I also think It was a bad move to have the regular antlerless season two weeks long.And at the same time as buck season.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As frivilous as this lawsuit is, I&#039;m glad this fringe group of malcontents is finally going to have to put up or shut up. This group was formed by a handful of guys who didn&#039;t agree with the majority of another large club. they haven&#039;t been a friend to the sportsmen or pgc since, and 25 years later they&#039;re still disagreeing with the majority. Though they claim to be a majority, their lawsuit could only collect 13,000 signatures which is like one 100th of a percent of the people and not even 1% of the sportsmen. Their individual membership is just over 2000 people, but with club memberships which include anyone belonging to those clubs, they claim (depending on what day of the week0 about 30,000. Still being one of the smaller clubs when affiliated clubs are included. they count on the exploitation of the uninformed hunter and their emotions.
 I&#039;ll be surprised if the suit goes far before the usp runs out of money. In their hast to make the news they overlooked the cost and the need for &quot;experts&quot; to agree with them. Already the head guy is out job shopping, directors are quiting, and there&#039;s a scramble to find money to pay their lawyers. Word on the street is they have accepted money from fund for animals.
But nonetheless, I believe that when the judges see the facts and experts presented by the game commission, and nothing more than personal opinions from you average joe off the street from the usp; it will be short lived. Then hopefully this club will dry up and wither away and the division of hunters and outdoorsmen they&#039;ve caused will start the healing process. But keep in mind that door they&#039;ve opened for bringing lawsuits against hunting and wildlife agencies will never be closed again! And we have about 10 people to thank for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As frivilous as this lawsuit is, I&#8217;m glad this fringe group of malcontents is finally going to have to put up or shut up. This group was formed by a handful of guys who didn&#8217;t agree with the majority of another large club. they haven&#8217;t been a friend to the sportsmen or pgc since, and 25 years later they&#8217;re still disagreeing with the majority. Though they claim to be a majority, their lawsuit could only collect 13,000 signatures which is like one 100th of a percent of the people and not even 1% of the sportsmen. Their individual membership is just over 2000 people, but with club memberships which include anyone belonging to those clubs, they claim (depending on what day of the week0 about 30,000. Still being one of the smaller clubs when affiliated clubs are included. they count on the exploitation of the uninformed hunter and their emotions.<br />
 I&#8217;ll be surprised if the suit goes far before the usp runs out of money. In their hast to make the news they overlooked the cost and the need for &#8220;experts&#8221; to agree with them. Already the head guy is out job shopping, directors are quiting, and there&#8217;s a scramble to find money to pay their lawyers. Word on the street is they have accepted money from fund for animals.<br />
But nonetheless, I believe that when the judges see the facts and experts presented by the game commission, and nothing more than personal opinions from you average joe off the street from the usp; it will be short lived. Then hopefully this club will dry up and wither away and the division of hunters and outdoorsmen they&#8217;ve caused will start the healing process. But keep in mind that door they&#8217;ve opened for bringing lawsuits against hunting and wildlife agencies will never be closed again! And we have about 10 people to thank for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happens, I hope that everyone gets to the bottom of this and puts it all to rest once and for all. The longer this goes on, the more trouble it is causing. I still hate to see it end up in the hands of lawyers and courts but I guess if that&#039;s what it takes, then so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happens, I hope that everyone gets to the bottom of this and puts it all to rest once and for all. The longer this goes on, the more trouble it is causing. I still hate to see it end up in the hands of lawyers and courts but I guess if that&#8217;s what it takes, then so be it.</p>
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